Spruce Goose, straight to the museum.
JIMH- I think all your calculations are correct. I think people of $10-million net worth would have something else in mind for a boat.
Have a great holiday season and thanks for facilitating this great forum.
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- Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:50 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 405 CONQUEST
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4067
- Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:00 am
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Outrage 21 Yamaha 200
- Replies: 5
- Views: 8490
Re: Outrage 21 Yamaha 200
I had an Outrage 21 with a Yamaha 200 2-stroke. Sweet spot was 4000rpm, 28-29knots. Conditions didn't always allow for that.
- Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:26 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1994 OUTRAGE 24 Limited Edition
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8975
Re: 1994 OUTRAGE 24 Limited Edition
The only limited edition I know of for the Outrage 24 was the Fenwick/Cross-tackle edition. I believe it was offered in 1997. Had a very dark green hull. They advertised things like retractable cleats so lines wouldn't get caught. The emphasis was fly fishing. If I recall, there was an enhanced bow ...
- Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:53 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Which Whaler
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6175
Re: Which Whaler
My vote is the Outrage 190 for the deeper V-hull which will come in handy when you hit the bigger chop. You have huge lakes on the Idaho side of the border, plus Puget Sound, and the other places you are considering, there is the possibility of a long fetch of high winds and relatively small bodies ...
- Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:14 am
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 2007 Outrage 24 Re-power with Single from Twins
- Replies: 7
- Views: 12146
Re: 2007 Outrage 24 Re-power with Single from Twins
The 1993-1997 OUTRAGE 24 is probably one of my favorite hulls. I had a 1995 21 OUTRAGE for over 20 years and really wanted the 24 but it was just a little too much out of my range. Honestly, that beast has a 195 gallon fuel tank, cavernous fish holds, storage, bait tank and while the hull's dry weig...
- Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:58 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1994 Outrage 21 Fuel Tank Replacement
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4867
Re: 1994 Outrage 21 Fuel Tank Replacement
I had a 1995 21 OUTRAGE for over 20 years. Same "great" hull for model years 1993-1997. By the way, the fuel tank for the 1993-1997 21 OUTRAGE is 122 gallons, not 125. Sorry - I'm an accountant. In those years, four-cycle engines were in cars. Power rating for the 21 OUTRAGE was 150 HP min...
- Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:30 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16131
Re: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
I have been on the Prowler several times, and can add this information. The Prowler does in fact have radar. However, I cannot attest as to what zoom-level it was set to, whether anybody was looking at it, or whether anybody was even in the wheelhouse, etc. I wasn't on the Prowler that night. I look...
- Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:33 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16131
Re: Mandatory AIS
Regarding AIS- § 164.46 Automatic Identification System. (b)AIS carriage - (1)AIS Class A device. The following vessels must have on board a properly installed, operational Coast Guard type-approved AIS Class A device: (i) A self-propelled vessel of 65 feet or more in length, engaged in commercial s...
- Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:15 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16131
Re: Alternative AIS Track for ATTESSA IV
I saw the track at https://www.myshiptracking.com/ The collision appears to have happened Friday, 10/26/2018 between 7:25 p.m, and 7:29 p.m. in Mexican waters. I put a trackline from the collision point to the Mission Bay entrance projecting Prowler's trajectory. My speculation is the Attessa hit th...
- Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:52 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16131
Re: unit of measurement of ship length by using bullding measurements of storey
...The ATTESSA IV is like a 22-storey building laying on its side One storey is usually considered about 10-feet. The ATTESSA IV is said to be 332-feet long, so if the unit storey is to be used to describe her length wouldn't that be a 33-storey building? JimH- I looked at several sites on the inte...
- Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:47 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16131
Re: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
What was the visibility at the time and location of the collision? That was the time of day? What was the speed of the vessels? The time was about 7:45pm last Friday (Oct 26). At this time of year, it is pitch-black nighttime. The passenger noted "fog and darkness". No report that I saw i...
- Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:37 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
- Replies: 22
- Views: 16131
Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
[In the collision of the 332-foot mega-yacht ATTESSA IV with the 65-foot charter fishing boat PROWLER nine miles offshore from San Diego, California] one person died. The PROWLER was returning to port she collided with ATTESSA IV. The ATTESSA IV is like a 22-storey building laying on its side and mo...
- Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:06 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Bob Dougherty, Everglades Boats
- Replies: 3
- Views: 7970
Re: Bob Dougherty, Everglades Boats
John Ward was VP-Sales at Whaler in 1995 when I got my new 1995 OUTRAGE 21. Met him at Los Angeles boat show around February 1995. Enthusiastic and nice guy. I personally thought the Everglades boats were a continuation of the trajectory that the Whaler OUTRAGE line was on during the later Dougherty...
- Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:38 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Water Dripping From Repair on Keel
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5081
Re: Water Dripping From Repair on Keel
Agree with jefecinco. I had 1995 OUTRAGE 21, same hull, and had a similar situation. Dent to a chine. Major repair had to be done over and over again to finally fix. Essentially cutting out and replacing a grapefruit size chunk of hull. Not cheap. I would be wary.
- Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:14 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Powering a Boat Above Maximum Horsepower Rating
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6250
Re: 1973 Montauk 1 Power
Back in the day we put a Chevy 327 into a Chevrolet Vega wagon. Got pulled over. The cop was doing the same and wanted to check it out and ask how we did certain things to support all of the torque. No legal problems as long as it met smog requirements.
- Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Twin 200 v. Single 350
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5735
Re: Twin 200 v. Single 350
Here are some twin Yamaha F200XB performance reports with boats seemingly comparable to the size you mentioned: Edgewater 262 https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/350-150-hp/in-line-4/f200-i4/pb_edg_262cx_t_f200xca_121615_rbt Grady White 257 https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboar...
- Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:00 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Outrage 18 Bait System
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6065
Re: 18ft Outrage bait system
If you are West Coast, definitely talk to "Randy" at Bluewater Bait Systems. I have used his products for many years. Outstanding. He has stock models and customization as well. Based in Southern California (Newport Beach area). Very well known and respected in the Southern California fish...
- Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:53 pm
- Forum: MARKETPLACE
- Topic: Looking for a Conquest. I'm in California.
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1998
Re: Looking for a Conquest. I'm in California.
Call "Gary" at Schock Boats in Newport Beach, CA. Although Schock doesn't sell new Whalers anymore, they did for over 30 years. Gary has been there for at least 25 years. They deal used boats and oftentimes Whalers. He has his ears to the ground and may know of something. Definitely check ...
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:12 pm
- Forum: MARKETPLACE
- Topic: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty REDUCED
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8897
Re: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty
Simply amazing looking! My favorite Whaler with my favorite engines. Out of curiosity, do you have any speed and fuel consumption stats? I'm not in the market but if it were 1.5 years ago, I would have pounced on it in a second. Best of luck, and I'm jealous of whomever the lucky buyer is.
- Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:53 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Boat Parade - Fishing for St Judes
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3397
Re: Boat Parade - Fishing for St Judes
They would have been overturned or swamped by the wakes of the larger boats.
- Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:54 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Yamaha F250 or F300 for a 23 Conquest
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5688
Re: Yamaha F250 or F300 for a 23 Conquest
[Isn't the boat under discussion in this thread the same boat as discussed] in the second post of another thread [discussing a different boat, the 235 CONQUEST and the same boat as discussed in this thread, a 23 CONQUEST] at http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004484.html [In the other thread ...
- Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:59 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Yamaha F250 or F300 for a 23 Conquest
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5688
Re: Yamaha 250 or 300 for a 23 Conquest
The new Yamaha F250 and F300 weigh the same, between 560 to 570-lbs. Probably the same or less than the twin Mercury engines. My 1995 21 OUTRAGE it was rated 150 to 300-HP. Given the larger size, if it were my decision, I would lean towards the F300. I have twin 300-HP engines on my Everglades and l...
- Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:31 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 270 Dauntless: Trolling Motor; Single v. Twin Engines; More
- Replies: 22
- Views: 15178
Re: 270 Dauntless: Trolling Motor; Single v. Twin Engines; More
I had an OUTRAGE 21 from 1994-2017 with a single Yamaha 200 two-stroke-power-cycle engine from 1994 to 2013, and a single Yamaha F200XB engine from 2013 to 2017. And now an Everglades 295CC for a year with twin Yamaha F300 engines. My observations: --the two-stroke-power-cycle engine was much less e...
- Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 am
- Forum: MARKETPLACE
- Topic: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty REDUCED
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8897
Re: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty
Yeah- The definition of a New York minute. This was a free Offshore 27 for the price of a pair of Yamaha 300's. Even if the monster from the Alien movies was real and occupied the cabin space, it would still be a good deal. If I was in the market, I would have pounced on this in seconds.
- Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:57 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Whaler Vespa
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2703
Re: Whaler Vespa
Obviously a Verado under the seat. The rack for carrying things doesn't look like 316 stainless steal.
- Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:01 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 21 OUTRAGE Access to hidden raw water pump
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3910
Re: 21 OUTRAGE Access to hidden raw water pump
I had a 1995 21 OUTRAGE and the raw-water pump was inside the center console mounted on the aft wall of the console in close proximity to the wiring and fuses behind the rocker switches. Next to the freshwater pump, which I had because mine had the optional 20gal freshwater tank. On mine, in the cav...
- Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Whalers in PNW - Puget Sound
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6449
Re: Whalers in PNW - Puget Sound
I have been in Puget Sound a lot. Wind against current makes steep waves, a lot of debris in the water. Logs, excetera. Keep your eyes open.
- Wed May 23, 2018 12:55 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Yamaha V8 425-HP 5.6-liter Direct-injection Engine
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4996
Re: Yamaha V8 425-HP 5.6-liter Direct-injection Engine
Would be interesting to put one of these on a 1993-1997 OUTRAGE 24. Max HP rating is 400, this is 425. Orange County, CA Sheriff in Newport Harbor has the commercial version of the OUTRAGE 24 with twin Yamaha F200XB engines. The F200XB is over 480lbs. Twin F200 XBs is not far from the weight of the ...
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:34 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Name on side of the boat
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10170
Re: Name on side of the boat
I like a clean look. Just the Whaler logo and stripe. All should be red. A non-red Whaler logo and stripe, to me is like a Philly Cheese Steak without Cheez-Whiz. I personally, like Forrest Gump, named my boat after the love of my life. I put the name on the stern. This is very opinionated, my opini...
- Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:54 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
- Replies: 28
- Views: 19668
Re: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
Below is a link to an article about the Orange County Sheriff (Newport Beach) boats. https://www.ocregister.com/2014/02/19/modern-patrol-fleet-additions-hit-the-water/ I see these sheriff boats in Newport all the time. Very slick. Notable difference, the commercial version have a 125-gallon fuel tan...
- Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:37 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
- Replies: 28
- Views: 19668
Re: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
I extensively studied that hull. In late 1994, I purchased a 1995 OUTRAGE 21 which was also a Van Lancker hull. I had a certain budget and every which way I looked at it, I couldn't afford the 24. My OUTRAGE 21 was great in the ocean. The OUTRAGE 24 has yet a deeper hull. The OUTRAGE 24 dry-weight i...
- Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:07 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 2003 Yamaha F225 with 900 Hours
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6672
Re: 2003 Yamaha F225 with 900 Hours
As an aside, I wanted to add that the early 2000's Grady White 265 Express is an admirable boat. An exceptional cockpit and transom for fishing. Very deep-V hull. If I recall you are Pacific Northwest, and that boat is perfect for that area. I personally would put twin Yamaha 250 4.2 liter four-cycl...
- Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:55 am
- Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
- Topic: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14496
Re: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna
I had a 1995 OUTRAGE 21 from October, 1994 - May, 2017. I kept it at a dry-stack where they covered-and-uncovered the boat, launched the boat, and stowed it. They replaced the VHF antenna a few times over the years, usually because the weight of the cover on the antenna at a wrong angle. When I orde...
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:08 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 2018 170 Montauk Prices
- Replies: 17
- Views: 11647
Re: 2018 170 Montauk Prices
Seems like they're trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Downright arrogant. I know there is less flexibility on price with smaller models but still, this doesn't seem right. I just purchased an Everglades 295cc and I got a great deal. Besides Everglades, there are a whole bunch of other...
- Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:59 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: BOATING Magazine Tests 240 DAUNTLESS PRO
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3841
Re: BOATING Magazine Tests 240 DAUNTLESS PRO
How did the "Weight as tested" compare between the Boston Whaler test and the Boating Magazine test? I often find manufacturer's performance reports to be on the optimistic side. For example, minimal fuel, one or two people, very little extra gear. Oftentimes, the tests are performed on fl...
- Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:58 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Oregon Buoy 10 Boat Collision
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6579
Re: Oregon Buoy 10 Boat Collision
jimh wrote: Apparently the collision occurred last year (perhaps in September 2017) but the posting of the video has stirred up interest in it.
August 12, 2017 (The Oregonian)
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north ... jumps.html
Gives me chills to watch.
- Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:12 pm
- Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
- Topic: ICOM IC-M605 VHF DSC Radio
- Replies: 1
- Views: 15089
Re: ICOM IC-M605 VHF DSC Radio
When I sold my 1995 Whaler 21 OUTRAGE and got the Everglades 295cc in mid-2017, I decided to go with this exact radio, the ICOM IC-M605 VHF DSC. On the Whaler, I had a 1995 President by Uniden and that was fine. This ICOM radio is in a whole other world in comparison. I purchased an 8-foot Comrod VH...
- Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:36 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: NYC, Boston and Miami Boat Shows
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2937
Re: NYC, Boston and Miami Boat Shows
Will you be at any of the So Cal shows? LA (Fairplex), Fred Hall, San Diego Sunroad?
- Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:30 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: The Market for Outboard Engine Re-powering
- Replies: 15
- Views: 11501
Re: The Market for Outboard Engine Re-powering
Good analysis. Another thing I noticed, and around the time you mention, is the reduction in fuel tank capacities. The four-stroke-power-cycle outboard engines, even the ones of the 2002-2005 era had better fuel economy than the two-stroke-power-cycle outboard engines of the late 1990's - early 2000...
- Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:33 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Outboard Engines: Rebuild or Buy New
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8160
Re: Outboard Engines: Rebuild or Buy New
Not to mention, and it's hard to imagine in boating, but if green is your thing, re-building is fa-a-a-r greener and more socially responsible than discarding-and-then-contributing to a market for all the wasted resources it takes to create something new--even after accounting for newer technology'...
- Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:19 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Boat Insurance
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9811
Re: Boat Insurance
I use BoatUS and they underwrite through Geico. After shopping around, I found nobody I inquired could match the coverage and price of BoatUS. As for towing, I use BoatUS TowBoatUS which used to be Vessel Assist. I have the Unlimited Gold which is their highest coverage in my area. With Unlimited Go...
- Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:44 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10074
Re: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey
With my 1995 21 OUTRAGE, fishing with 4 people was fine but definitely any more than that was tight. I like the Ventura and it is good for fishing too. If you are fishing for game species like larger Tuna, Jacks and Billfish, the ability to circle around the deck of the boat is better with the OUTRA...
- Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:33 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10074
Re: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey
With my 1995 21 OUTRAGE, which has the same hull for model years 1993 through 1997, this boat was perfect for fishing in the ocean and with four people. It was ideal. I owned it from 1994 through 2017. Between 4,000 and 5,000 hours on the ocean. My experience is that you need a V-hull in order to co...
- Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:08 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Possible Purchase 1996 21’ Outrage
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10257
Re: Possible Purchase 1996 21’ Outrage
I went to Yacht World and saw four similar boats in the $16000 to $18000 range. This one seems to be in good condition. I noticed the ice chest cooler behind the seats. And I also noticed that there's some kind of a box or contraption in front of the center console where the ice chest was originally...
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:37 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Possible Purchase 1996 21’ Outrage
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10257
Re: Help with new possible purchase 96 21’ Outrage
I owned a 1995 OUTRAGE 21. I purchased it new in October 1994 and owned it 23 years until earlier this year when I purchased an Everglades 295cc. I put at least 4000 hours on the ocean in Southern California. This is a great boat. This hull is the same for 1993 to 1997 year models. It is a dry ride....
- Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:50 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Boat State Registration
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5555
Re: Boat State Registration
I'm a CPA but know little about Sales & Use tax, State and Local tax but I do know enough to advise you not to assume or guess about anything related to this. Find a local tax person that you trust, use that advice, don't play with matches with taxing authorities.
- Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:00 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Outboard Engines: Rebuild or Buy New
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8160
Re: Outboard Engines: Rebuilt or Buy New
My principal reason for moving away from the older two-stroke-power-cycle outboard engine was the heavy smelly smoke it generated. A major part of the time I spend on the water is fishing. When fishing and not anchored, the drag created by the lower unit and propeller in the water would cause the bo...
- Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:02 am
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 2002 290 OUTRAGE Re-power
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5003
Re: 2002 290 OUTRAGE Re-power
My 2017 Everglades 295CC has twin Yamaha F300 engines. The dry-stack I store the boat at weighed it (with engines and half-full fuel tank) at 8,900-lbs. I took it out on smooth seas last week with four adults and four kids. I estimated weight of people and carry-on stuff at 1,000 lbs. Call it 10,000...
- Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:40 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 1992 21 Outrage Re-power
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4363
Re: 1992 21 Outrage Re-power
Your boat is the same as mine was. The Outrage 21 from 1993 to 1997 had a minimum horsepower rating of 150, maximum 300. I re-powered to a Yamaha F200XB and loved it. I posted all details about the re-power, and performance stats. I got great mileage stats, and really good performance. I hope this h...
- Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:24 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Need for Bottom Paint for Three Months in Saltwater
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3834
Re: Need for Bottom Paint for Three Months in Saltwater
For Boston Whaler's thoughts about the necessity of bottom paint, see http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/manual9-17/maintenance.html#bottom I would add one thought... Some marinas, local municipalities, etc., may have regulations or restrictions on the type of anti-fouling paint that can be...