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Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:20 am
by Pugster
I am considering buying a 1997 Outrage 17—my first Boston Whaler boat. The hull has bottom paint, but looks to be in generally good shape. However, there is a section approximately two-feet-long in the “valley” below one of the strakes that is showing a discolored, yellow-brown, cracking pattern. [The cracks are so narrow that I] can’t even get a fingernail into them. Other than this area, there are no signs of obvious damage, although the bottom paint could be hiding something.

Q1: is [the two-feet-long yellow-brown cracking an indicator that] I should walk away (not purchase this boat)?

Getting a marine surveyor to have a look at the boat has been a challenge.

I have read about [tapping the hull with a] plastic hammer to check for delaminating. I think that is my next step.

Q2: what are other methods to assess this hull prior to buying it?

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I’m looking forward to soon joining the Boston Whaler community—and not just on the internet

—Peter

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:48 am
by jimh
Q3: is the two-foot-long yellow-brown cracking in the area of the hull bottom with bottom paint?

Q4: if the boat is on its trailer, what is the relationship between the two-foot-long yellow-brown cracking area and any bunk or roller or hardware on the trailer?

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:26 am
by Pugster
Hi Jim, thanks for the reply.

The cracking is on the uppermost strake above where it contacts the trailer. The crack extends from mainly the unpainted section to “just into” the bottom paint. Looks to be above the waterline.

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Thanks again for any advice.

Peter

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:40 pm
by Phil T
Post some photos.

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:01 pm
by jimh
PHIL T owns an OUTRAGE 17, so he can offer you much better advice than I can that is specific to that model.

That said, cracking on the hull bottom near a strake sounds like something that happened during the boat being loaded onto or unloaded from the trailer. The notion that the damage is in a two-foot long area also sounds like the boat was being. moved over the area of impact, as would occur on a trailer during loading or unloading.

Or, perhaps there was something about the trailer set-up that put too much loading force on that part of the hull, and travel on the highway caused damage over time.

If the boat took the bottom, the damage would be on or close to the hull centerline or keel.

Ask the seller to explain how the damage occurred. He may offer a plausible explanation.

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:32 pm
by Pugster
Thanks for the info gents, I was out of the country and having trouble figuring out the pic function. Here’s a pic of the cracking. The seller said he never noticed it prior, which I admit I find a bit tough to believe.

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Fig. 1. Cracking in hull bottom along strake.
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Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:30 pm
by jimh
The most curious element in Figure 1 is the abrupt change in the hue of the gel coat between the strake and the hull.

Q5: is there any chance the Strake was not original to the boat?

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:59 pm
by Pugster
jimh wrote:Q5: is there any chance the Strake was not original to the boat?
I don’t think so, at least the other side seemed more uniform. The side of the boat with the cracking was parked against a fence,. [Perhaps] that is causing the color difference from a shadow or reflection in the [illustration seen in Figure 1].

The pattern of the crack makes me think it’s not from a central impact, that it is a result of a crack that has spread slowly from the front to the aft section of the hull along a weak bit of gelcoat. [The appearance makes] me think it may be superficial and not indicative of trouble underneath, but that’s why I’m checking with those more experienced than me.

I am NOT in the market for a costly project boat.

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:11 am
by jimh
About the only further advice I can offer is this: try scrubbing the area with the yellow-brown cracks with a strong detergent to see if they are just some sort of surface pigmentation that can be scrubbed away.

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:24 pm
by Phil T
Remember these boats are hand made.

The photo above shows gelcoat spider cracking that is typically found on curving or corner surfaces when it was applied too thickly and has dried out due to exposure.

It is cosmetic.

Detailing the gelcoat and removing the oxidation will lessen the visual sign of the spider cracks. The purists would have the cracks ground out and the gelcoat reapplied costing several thousand dollars when done by a professional.

Re: Assessing Hull with Unusual Cracking

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:16 pm
by Pugster
Phil T wrote:Remember these boats are hand made.

The photo above shows gelcoat spider cracking that is typically found on curving or corner surfaces when it was applied too thickly and has dried out due to exposure.

It is cosmetic.

Detailing the gelcoat and removing the oxidation will lessen the visual sign of the spider cracks. The purists would have the cracks ground out and the gelcoat reapplied costing several thousand dollars when done by a professional.


PHIL T :Thanks . I am having the hull looked over on July 29, 2023. I found a surveyor. He looked at the picture and said something similar.

Peter