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posted 06-27-2006 03:12 PM ET (US)
I have a tank of about 10 gallons of old gas I want to dispose of. I want to keep the tank and get rid of the gas. There does not seem to be a recycle outfit in Jacksonville who can do this.
posted 06-27-2006 04:22 PM ET (US)
I use it up in my lawn mower.
posted 06-27-2006 07:42 PM ET (US)
I pour about 2 Gallons each time in my Honda car until it's gone; no harm done...
posted 06-27-2006 07:47 PM ET (US)
Lockeman's Evinrude dealer burns up any old gas he drains from tanks in his Hi-Lo.......see if there are any old factories that might want it for their hi-lo
posted 06-27-2006 10:46 PM ET (US)
Call the county dump. Around here, about twice a year they have an "Amnesty Day." They set up a collection site and take old paint, gas, batteries, etc.
With small amounts of gas, I pour it in a bucket and just let it sit outside under the back porch. It eventually evaporates.
posted 06-28-2006 08:05 PM ET (US)
car or lawn mower, just mix it with fresh gas.
posted 06-28-2006 10:03 PM ET (US)
Here's what not to do...
I had about a half gallon of old gas to get rid of, so I took a large metal pan I use for oil changes, put in out in the driveway, poured in the gas and set it alight.
Bad idea. You'da thunk a jetliner went down in my driveway. The flames were 8 feet high and the smoke was thick, black and taking over the neighborhood.
I had to use a fire extinguisher to put it out.
I would add some SeaFoam to it and burn it in your small engines.
posted 06-28-2006 10:04 PM ET (US)
Florida 15 - that is no different from just pouring it in a parking lot.
posted 06-28-2006 11:25 PM ET (US)
Recently I disposed of a couple of gallons of old gas for an elderly neighbor. When I buy new tires for my truck and car, I usually take the old tires with me, so I can save the "dispoal" fee. I tell the tire dealer, that I use the tires for fenders on my tugboat, but I just toss them in the vacent lot next to my house. Well my neighbors complained to me that the 16 tires or so were unsightly, so when the old guy neighbor said he wanted to get rid of a couple of gallons of gas, a light clicked on in my head. Might as well kill two birds with one stone. Well, to make a long story short, I guess you can`t keep everyone happy cause then they complained about the black smoke wafting through the neighborhood.
posted 06-29-2006 12:00 AM ET (US)
Plotman: it's both better and worse than the parking lot.
Better because the gas won't disolve the asphalt in someone's
parking lot. Worse because the fumes could accumulate and
In any event, those hydrocarbons are gonna make smog.
David: I had a bit better experience with burning. I cut the
posted 06-29-2006 09:35 AM ET (US)
Plotman, educate me. How is letting it evaporate the same as pouring it out in a parking lot ? If you pour it out, it will eventually rain and the residue will make it's way to the ground(water).
I'm not talking about large amounts of gas, I take those to amnesty day at the dump. I'm talking about less than a gallon. I'm as environmentally conscience as anyone I know and do not knowingly do anything that will harm the environment.
I had considered pouring it out on my driveway and lighting it but thought better of it.
I don't see your solution listed.
posted 06-29-2006 09:55 AM ET (US)
When gasoline "evaporates", it does NOT magically disappear.
posted 06-29-2006 10:14 AM ET (US)
When you pour it out in a parking lot, the parking lot is more
or less impermeable, and most of the gas will evaporate.
posted 06-29-2006 11:12 AM ET (US)
Please tell us that you don't really throw old tires into a vacant lot then set fire to them in order to save a few dollars.
posted 06-29-2006 12:17 PM ET (US)
You might try calling your local fuel distributor. I have oil/water seperator tanks at my cardlock stations hooked to the storm drains. If one of my customers has some old fuel they want to get rid of, I will let them dump it in my tank. John
posted 06-29-2006 12:54 PM ET (US)
Whether you let it evaoprate slowly from a bucket, or dump it on the ground so it evaporates quickly, it is ending up in the atmosphere. The evaporation of spilled fuel is a significant contributor to air pollution.
posted 06-29-2006 01:42 PM ET (US)
put in in a large metal trash can, light it on fire. Pour more on as needed, grab hotdogs.
posted 06-29-2006 04:55 PM ET (US)
Thank you gentlemen.
I am looking for the most environmentally friendly way to get rid of this stuff. I will call the local fuel distributor for some more ideas. I don't wish to just have it dumped somewhere and was hoping to find some government approved disposal site. Then again, my neighbor is kind of an a--hole so maybe I will pump it into his new Escalade;)
posted 06-29-2006 08:39 PM ET (US)
If gas prices keep climbing, or you happen to get a Hurricane through Jacksonville, you should have no trouble getting rid of that old gas. After a hurricane, you'd be amazed what your neighbors will burn in their generator, especially if they don't have to stand in line to buy it!
Thoroughly amused by David and Chuck's comments about burning it off in an open container. I had a similar experience with some hydrocarbon fluid as a teen. Very Very bad idea...
If you hang a sign out on the end of the driveway offering free gas, you'll get someone willing to put it in their own container and burn it in something... At $3/gallon, it would go a long way in my riding mower... The neighbor with the Escalade may volunteer to take it and put it in his gas guzzler...
posted 06-29-2006 11:17 PM ET (US)
My post was not meant to be serious, although I don`t consider myself to be a tree hugger.
|JR in NJ||
posted 06-30-2006 12:06 PM ET (US)
I recently looked into this to get rid of about 40 gallons of very old gas from a boat I bought. The county (Camden, NJ) has hazardous waste days 3 or 4 times each spring where they collect fuel, pesticides, oil paint, etc.
It is run by a subcontractor and they dispose of the waste properly (AFAIK). They even gave out new gas cans.
Ours is run through the public works dept..
posted 06-30-2007 01:17 AM ET (US)
Just place the fuel in an old cheap fuel can and ride around jacksonville with it plainly visible for all to see. It may take a couple of days, but someone will gladly liberate it from you, and they will dispose of it. Problem solved!!
posted 06-26-2008 12:26 AM ET (US)
Making the bad gas convenient for theft seems like poetic justice. It reminds me of a family story about a neighbor stealing firewood. The victims bored out one log and poured gun powder in it. Then set it aside so as not to use it themselves and eventually identifying the culprit. I guess there weren't as many legal ramifications back in the day.
posted 06-26-2008 08:47 AM ET (US)
A lot of these suggestions seem silly or non-eco friendly at worst.
Modern auto engines will burn almost anything in small quantity - dumping it in your car (at some reasonable level of dilution with good gas), has to be the way to go. Even dumping pre-mix gas this way is not likely to hurt anything.
posted 06-26-2008 02:44 PM ET (US)
Every Spring I siphon old gas from my boat to my car. I make sure it mixes with 93 octane at a 10:1 ratio. Enviromentally friendly, legal and solves the problem.
posted 07-14-2009 04:38 PM ET (US)
All of these methods are not really great for your neighborhoods or the Earth.
Just go to Earth911.com to find a local business that will take your old gasoline and find a use for it,recycle it, or dispose of any hazardous Material correctly.
posted 07-14-2009 04:56 PM ET (US)
Way to dig up an ancient thread for your first post...and to chide the members here at that!
Welcome aboard...we take all kinds....i guess. :)
posted 07-14-2009 06:59 PM ET (US)
Here's what i did with 40+ gallons of tainted fuel in my tank, I put an ad on Craigslist under the Free section and I got two calls in 10 minutes. Guy came and drained it and hauled it away.
posted 07-15-2009 12:11 AM ET (US)
I drained 25 gallons of 3 year old gas and used it 5 gallons at a time in my '04 Dodge Ram. Truck uses so much gas it went through so fast the engine never knew it was in the tank!!
posted 07-15-2009 08:38 AM ET (US)
This criticism is really very wrong and unjustified. First of all, if one reads the suggestions given in this thread, they are mainly all suggestions of re-use of the gasoline as a fuel in internal combustion engines. I cannot see how using gasoline as a fuel is something that could be considered "not really great...for the Earth."
Only one suggestion was offered which I consider to be somewhat suspect in terms of environmental impact: to put small quantities into a pan for evaporation.
The nonsense about pouring onto tires and burning was clearly offered in jest and later specifically qualified as an attempt at humor.
There is no guarantee that taking gasoline to a commercial enterprise and paying for disposal will result in less environmental impact. It will result in more expense and improved cash flow for the business accepting it for disposal. This looks to me like an attempt to leverage "green" for profit. Again, I see nothing to criticize in re-use of gasoline as a fuel for internal combustion engines.
posted 07-15-2009 09:44 AM ET (US)
Put it in your car, as long as you don't have any type of lead additive in the fuel it will harm nothing.
posted 07-15-2009 10:00 AM ET (US)
I siphoned it into my Chevy. Binky your post was hysterical; thanks for the laugh!
posted 07-15-2009 10:02 AM ET (US)
Sure - you have questionable gas you don't want to burn in your $5,000 outboard, so burn it in your $30,000 car.
If your lawnmower will burn it, so will your outboard.
posted 07-16-2009 04:44 PM ET (US)
I think a lot of the suggestions to take it to the hazardous waste facility for disposal are missing the point. He wants to save the containers. In my experience, when you take liquid waste to the hazardous waste facility, they take the containers.
posted 07-16-2009 08:03 PM ET (US)
First,, Just how old is the gas ??,,1 year 18 mos ??,,If its over 2 years old mix it with used motor oil 50/50 and soak your pine logs in it,,Its great for starting brush fires in a rain storm,, Just cut the logs 2 to 3 inches thick and as long as a 5gal bucket it deep,,Fill the bucket tightly with logs stood on end and poor in the oil/gas mix untill the bucket is 1/2 full and let it soak (keep the lids on tight) ,,During a rain is the best time to burn lots of brush,,The rain keeps the smoke and ash down and the oil logs burn hot enough to dry out the wet brush and it all goes away as fertilizer
posted 07-16-2009 09:00 PM ET (US)
I took a 6-gallon portable marine gas tank containing a couple of very old gallons of two-stroke mix to the household hazardous waste collection site offered in my town twice a year. They cheerfully accepted it and asked if I wanted the container back (which I didn't). I thought using it in any of my vehicles or power equipment was risky. It's my hope that it got burned in some multi-fuel furnace somewhere.
posted 07-16-2009 09:32 PM ET (US)
Combining 3 gallons of low octane, stale gas combined with 17 gallons of fresh highly circulated gas in your Chrysler, Ford or Chevy ain't no thang. Besides, if it ruins my vehicle my gubment gonna warranty it.
posted 07-17-2009 11:29 AM ET (US)
This whole discussion reminds me of the current cell phone ad in which the child in the family balks at using "roll- over" minutes because they are old. The only real question with aged gasoline is whether or not it will harm the engine it is used in. The less sophisticated the engine, the less the chance of harm. Of course, aged gasoline will not produce the same power as fresh, but considering the cost differential this trade off should be acceptable to most folks. In short, use vintage fuel in an engine (mixed with fresh, if necessary) and keep the environmentalists from picking at questionable disposal techniques.
posted 07-17-2009 12:59 PM ET (US)
not sure I want to eat hot dogs grilled over burning gas either!
posted 07-18-2009 08:30 PM ET (US)
I did what Humbolt Jim did when I bought an old Guardian with 100+ gallons of old fuel. I put it on Craigslist "free" as old boat gas. I had a dozen responses overnight. Most of the people had old vehicles or generators. I ended up "donating" it to a church camp caretaker who was thrilled to get. Even gave me a tax deductible donation receipt.
|R T M||
posted 07-18-2009 11:52 PM ET (US)
when I buy a gallon of milk it has a date stamp on it,and if the milk tastes or smells bad before that date, I can take it back to the grocery store and get a refund or a new gallon. As far as gasoline is concerned I have never seen a date stamp on a pump. Actually every time the underground tanks are filled, a sticker should be on the pump stating that this fuel should be used be a certain date. Without this I would believe there is no shelf life for gasoline. Why would I need to be educated by outside sources. Just pour the gas in old milk containers and bring it back to your friendly gas station, and tell him it smells bad, and demand replacement. When he refuses that, just tell him you will just leave it and take your business elsewhere. Problem solved.
You might make the daily news the next day, if he has your tag number, but the article will reach a hungry lawyer looking for publicity, and he will get you off, becuase you thought all businesses had return policies like Walmart, and you and your lawyer might make a few bucks and get on Fox news.
|Gene in NC||
posted 07-19-2009 09:17 PM ET (US)
Raleigh, NC has hazardous waste day one a month at the major landfills. Take whatever and return container if you choose.
posted 07-20-2009 05:51 AM ET (US)
Lawnmower, car, Craigslist or Freecycle - why does this have to be so hard? No brainer. I'd be putting it in one of my cars.
posted 07-20-2009 10:06 AM ET (US)
Makes a great weedkiller around the fence too!
posted 07-20-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)
Was this in Connecticut? As I understand it, Connecticut has a state of the art hazardous waste facility that completely removes all carcinogens, poisons and harmful materials from the environment, and just keeping the residents of the great state of Connecticut out of harms way.......
....they call it "New York."
posted 07-20-2009 06:45 PM ET (US)
I am sure you are kidding Rich, but let me poke holes in it anyhow.
Putting gasoline in a "non approved container" like a milk jug, is against the law. At least that is what it says on my state fire marshal signs.
If I get a load of gas in today, and it is being dumped in a tank that still has some gas in it from last month, what do I use for the expiration date?
Like I have said before, most distributors of petroleum products have a waste/recycle tank where you can get rid of bad gas for free.
posted 01-06-2010 04:59 PM ET (US)
I just suffered from bent push rods in my snow blower engine.
I read that a possible cause was old gasoline.
"Another cause is old fuel. Not old enough to prevent running but old just the same. Varnishes up intake valve stems. When they cool they stick. If bent push rod is on intake valve, look for varnish build up on intake valve stem."
posted 01-06-2010 05:04 PM ET (US)
I meant to add that disposing of old gasoline by burning it in your car could be a problem unless you only burn a little of the old gas mixed with lots of fresh gas as suggested by another poster.
That also means that if you have a little old gas in your tank, but fill the tank with lots of new gas, it's probably not a problem.
posted 01-06-2010 07:38 PM ET (US)
Old fuel as a cause of bent push rods seems very unlikely to me. Exceeding the recommended maximum RPM level is probably the most frequent cause of bent push rods. This can be a particular problem with snow blower engines. Frequently they are difficult to start due to the cold weather in which they are used. Some operators give in to the temptation to use starting fluid to get the engine to start. Often the engine is flooded due to being cranked with the choke closed for some time. A flooded engine started with a heavy blast of starting fluid will often exceed the recommended RPM.
If a valve sticks in the closed position it would be very difficult to crank the engine in order to start it. If the valve sticks in the open position the rocker arm would not be touching the push rod until the intake stroke of the affected cylinder has begun.
posted 01-06-2010 08:47 PM ET (US)
I've burned several gallons of old 2 stroke gas through my truck at a time and never had a problem. When I worked at a Ford dealer, some of my techs would jump on the trash fuel we drained out of cars and dilute it in their own cars without a problem. One would take drained diesel/gas mix when someone would fill their diesel truck with gas and add a few gallons at a time to his Dakota without any problems.
I guess that's better than when we just poured it down the catch basin in the front yard!
posted 01-07-2010 03:22 PM ET (US)
In my opinion, I would not take the chance running in another vehicle since the old fuel is probably loaded with water due to the ethanol. Water can and will can clog injectors. Been there, I bought a car cheap that had gotten a bad load of gas (w/water in it). Tank had been drained but it still ran bad. I had to remove all the injectors and have them cleaned/flowed. Ran like new after that.
Also, I dumped 25 gallons of water laden fuel at my marina that has a disposal area with a 55 gallon drum. They got quite upset saying that it was only for small amounts like from fuel filter changes. They wanted to charge me ALOT of $$$ since they have to pay to dispose of it. They let it slide as they didn't make it clear on the container.
posted 01-07-2010 04:39 PM ET (US)
Check locally for hazardous waste drop off locations. The county I live in has several. You can leave all sorts of stuff there; fuel, batteries, poison, old flares, electronics, etc.. Free to residents.
posted 01-07-2010 04:43 PM ET (US)
Had some last year that was too old and bad to burn in an engine. Poured into a coffee can close to half full at a time. Made a wick out of a paper towel and carefully lighted. Slowly and smokely burned away.
posted 01-07-2010 06:55 PM ET (US)
Binkie:Impressive.That is serious redneck approach to the issue. [Changed topic to primative techniques for night illumination while fishing from shore. Please stay on topic--gasoline disposal. Thank you.--jimh]
|R T M||
posted 01-08-2010 07:47 AM ET (US)
[Changed topic to discuss the discussion itself. Please limit discussion in this thread to disposal methods for old gasoline fuels. Thank you.]
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