1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Repair or modification of Boston Whaler boats, their engines, trailers, and gear
17838
Posts: 2
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:07 pm

1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby 17838 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:31 pm

Hi--I recently purchased a 1989 Outrage 22 that is in (pretty) bad shape; not sure how bad it is, but there definitely are signs of water intrusion. The boat has been sitting in warm and dry weather for a month and on some areas the boat sweats through the hull. How can this be fixed?

BW3.JPG
BW3.JPG (32.74 KiB) Viewed 6078 times

BW2.JPG
BW2.JPG (25.67 KiB) Viewed 6078 times


I am not expecting the boat to look like new; I just want to stop any further intrusion. Thanks for any input.

--Stefan

User avatar
Phil T
Posts: 2624
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:08 pm
Location: Was Maine. Temporarily Kentucky

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby Phil T » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:24 pm

I recall reading a thread years ago: that is uncured resin that is being forced out by heat expansion.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/003981.html
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/006087.html

In looking at the photos, the gelcoat finish looks very uneven. Was there damage at the starboard quarter that was repaired with new gelcoat? Bad prep before spraying gelcoat could be the cause.
1992 Outrage 17
2019 E-TEC 90
2018 LoadRite 18280096VT
Member since 2003

ConB
Posts: 248
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:52 pm
Location: Suttons Bay, MI

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby ConB » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:50 pm

Osmotic blisters may be? Does the brown goo smell like vinegar?

Con
!987 Outrage 18 / 2011 Yamaha F150
1969 13 / 30hp Johnson tiller

17838
Posts: 2
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:07 pm

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby 17838 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:33 pm

thanks for your reply, My guess is that there is structural damage due to water intrusion and freezing, therfore uncured resin is leaking? Do i need to be afraid that there will be water intrusion in the leaking areas? Its not osmotic blisters.

Im not sure but i dont think its an repair, i have two areas with same uneven gelcoat.

jimh
Posts: 11869
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:25 pm
Location: Michigan, Lower Peninsula
Contact:

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby jimh » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:53 pm

This boat was laminated with polyester resins 27 years ago. I doubt there are any uncured resins in the hull. Polyester resin is more or less in the process of curing when it is in a can waiting to be used. When the boat was laid-up the resin and catalyst were mixed and that mixture was sprayed all over the boat. Why would only some tiny part of the resin used in this boat remain uncured for 27-years?

If the hull gel coat surface is rough and uneven, there are only two explanations:

--a new top layer of gel coat has been applied as part of some hull repair, and the application was not very well done; or,

--water has been absorbed into the laminate and is forming blisters. The blisters also create the brown smelly stuff oozing out of them.

jimh
Posts: 11869
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:25 pm
Location: Michigan, Lower Peninsula
Contact:

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby jimh » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:53 pm

Read more about osmotic hull blisters in this interesting paper:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/refere ... isters.pdf

Wweez
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:29 am

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby Wweez » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:31 pm

The second picture seems to have a line above the blisters, blister area.
Based on that, a guess might be, left in the water, or filled with water on the trailer, or partially filled with water while in the water. Might look for a similar line inside. Look for Engine or oil pan rust up to a level. Even an oil line on the inside of the hull and equipment.
Could be a bad repair as suggested.
That line means something. Repair edge, or something.

I agree with the uncured resin diagnosis. Be careful poking around on those spots. At times they may be under pressure and can squirt you. Not too too bad unless it is in your eyes, then real bad.
Nothing worse than being squirted in the face by an angry defect.

Please keep the peanut gallery informed of any new evidence. Inquiring minds want to know.

Good Luck.

VKR
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:39 am

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Hull Has Brown Blisters

Postby VKR » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:37 pm

I experienced something similar, but no where near the severity your pictures show. In early spring I noticed a similar one inch long brown drip line on the exterior of my transom. The brown drip line was low on the transom and somewhat hardened/crusty. I cleaned the area with a mild abrasive and found approximately a quarter inch long crack at the origin of the brown drip line. I attribute the brown drip line to moisture being pushed out of the hull during dry winter storage. My guess is that any moisture that is in the hull picks up color from the wood in the transom or internal hull impurities.

Regarding the gel coat surface being textured, seemingly showing the fiberglass below, is it possible that many years of polishing would expose the glass texture? As an analogy, if you would sand a wood surface with a cushioned back sanding block, depending on the wood type, the spring wood and summer wood growth are removed different amounts (since the summer growth and spring growth differ in hardness) yielding a non level surface.

I would clean up the hull to see if you can find a micro crack or chip at the source of the brown drip line.